BSA to Further Study Membership Policy; Decision Planned for May

For 103 years, the Boy Scouts of America has been a part of the fabric of this nation, providing its youth program of character development and values-based leadership training. In the past two weeks, Scouting has received an outpouring of feedback from the American public. It reinforces how deeply people care about Scouting and how passionate they are about the organization.

After careful consideration and extensive dialogue within the Scouting family, along with comments from those outside the organization, the volunteer officers of the BSA’s National Executive Board concluded that due to the complexity of this issue, the organization needs time for a more deliberate review of its membership policy.

To that end, the National Executive Board directed its committees to further engage representatives of Scouting’s membership and listen to their perspectives and concerns. This will assist the officers’ work on a resolution on membership standards. The approximately 1,400 voting members of the National Council will take action on the resolution at the National Annual Meeting in May.


47 Responses to BSA to Further Study Membership Policy; Decision Planned for May

  1. Joanna Steffy says:

    If the Boy Scouts still consider themselves to be a moral organization, allowing gays would change the organization into an immoral one. It would also be reckless endangerment to allow gay volunteers to have any involvement with boys.

    • John says:

      That is a terrible thing to say. This is one of the reasons why the world is still at war.

    • Michael Soto says:

      It’s too bad your thinking goes back to the 1800′s. I’m more frighted of ignorant and hateful people like you working with the boys than any gay person.

    • Kim Pucka says:

      Being gay is not being a pedophile. Where is your statistics on your comment?

    • KevinDHarner says:

      Please tell me how it would be reckless using Youth Protection Training and 2 Deep Leadership rules

    • Robert Schmidt says:

      There will be no middle ground on this issue. All in or all out.

    • Lynette Dukes says:

      Dear Boy Scouts of America National Board Members,

      Boys should not be pawns in adult sexual controversies. Scouts should be allowed to participate in healthy, wholesome activities without fear of predation or moral confusion. Please do not change the policy and allow homosexual Scouts and Scoutmasters membership in the Boy Scouts of America. To allow homosexual Scoutmasters or homosexual Scouts will put young boys at risk. The mere thought is ridiculous to me. Please stand true to the Scout Oath being “physically strong” against social pressure, “mentally awake” against political correctness, and “morally straight” with the best interest of boys in mind. The Boy Scouts are an icon throughout America’s culture of honesty, purity, and helpfulness. Their stand for traditional values and moral purity has influenced more than 110 million members of the Boy Scouts of America. Despite challenges on every level, including the U.S. Supreme Court, so far the Boy Scouts of America have held true to its traditional values on morality. Please stand strong for traditional American values while mentoring young men. I am and will be praying that you will stand for righteousness.

      1The two angels arrived at Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gateway of the city. When he saw them, he got up to meet them and bowed down with his face to the ground. 2″My lords,” he said, “please turn aside to your servant’s house. You can wash your feet and spend the night and then go on your way early in the morning.” “No,” they answered, “we will spend the night in the square.” 3But he insisted so strongly that they did go with him and entered his house. He prepared a meal for them, baking bread without yeast, and they ate. 4Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom–both young and old–surrounded the house. 5They called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.” 6Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him 7and said, “No, my friends. Don’t do this wicked thing. 8Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them. But don’t do anything to these men, for they have come under the protection of my roof.” 9″Get out of our way,” they replied. And they said, “This fellow came here as an alien, and now he wants to play the judge! We’ll treat you worse than them.” They kept bringing pressure on Lot and moved forward to break down the door. 10But the men inside reached out and pulled Lot back into the house and shut the door. 11Then they struck the men who were at the door of the house, young and old, with blindness so that they could not find the door. 12The two men said to Lot, “Do you have anyone else here–sons-in-law, sons or daughters, or anyone else in the city who belongs to you? Get them out of here, 13because we are going to destroy this place. The outcry to the LORD against its people is so great that he has sent us to destroy it.” Genesis 19:1-13 NIV
      You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination. (NKJ, Leviticus 18:22)
      If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them. (NKJ, Leviticus 20:13)
      What comes out of you is what defiles you. For from within, out of your hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. All these evils come from inside and defile you. (TNIV, Mark 7:20-23)
      26For this reason God gave them up to degrading passions. Their women exchanged natural intercourse for unnatural, 27and in the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error. Romans 1:26-27 NIV
      Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. (NIV, 1st Corinthians 6:9-11)
      Yours in Scouting,
      Lynette K. Dukes

  2. Luana Owen says:

    First I would like to say that I don’t envy you all the responsibility of making this decision. Either way the vote goes the scouting program will lose. And if we lose big we may never recover. I personally am conservative so I would vote for the Traditional Scouting Values. However, I can see the other side wanting the valuable program that we are. It is going to come down to what everything boils down too, how much money will we lose based on each decision.

    • Ron Morris says:

      Luana I think the money is just part of the problem here. Let’s set aside the moral issue for a moment. I have a serious question for those who wish to change the policy. Are you willing to see the BSA shrink by 50%, sell off camps and consolidate councils? If the policy change is the single most important factor in scouting, then I respect your dedication to your values, but respectfully disagree. If you feel that my prediction is inaccurate and alarmist, perhaps you should review the research.
      Professionally, I study demographics and social trends with an emphasis on adolescent development, interests and career choice. I hold an MBA in marketing and a MA in Secondary Education – Teaching and Learning with 25 years of experience in these fields.
      The potential impact to the BSA of the suggested policy change is one that has many parallels in our society. As a direct and practical example, I suggest you review the decline of Scouts Canada, which has experienced a 50% and continuing decline in membership since changing their membership policy in 1998.
      You may argue that inclusiveness would increase the pool of potential Scouts and increase donations from organizations that have pulled funding, but there is significant evidence that this would not be the case. Take the case of Christian religious denominations in the United States over the past 30 years. According to the Association of Religion Data Archives the follow changes in membership occurred during the time from 1980 to 2010; Evangelical Protestant – up 24.43%, Mainline Protestant – down 23.92%, Catholic – up 24.10%, Latter-Day Saints (Mormon) – up 128.90%. It is the denominations with the stricter moral codes that have been growing, while the denominations which have preached inclusivity, diversity and moral relativism that have declined in membership. Ironically, in many of the Mainline Protestant denominations their membership is also aging rapidly, which indicates a profound problem with recruitment of the younger generations.
      Why does this happen? Social scientists have studied the issue and have identified objective dynamics that drive growth in groups with stricter standards. Take the following from Laurence R. Iannaccone, Ph.D., a professor at Chapman University (affiliated with the United Church of Christ which supports changing the membership policy) and Director, Institute for the Study of Religion, Economics, and Society in his article, “Why Strict Churches Are Strong,” accessed at
      “The primary argument concerns how strictness increases commitment, raises levels of participation, and enables a group to offer more benefits to current and potential members. It seems obvious that such groups enjoy a competitive advantage over their opposites (who suffer from less commitment, lower participation, and fewer perceived benefits),…”
      Professor Iannaccone does state that there is a point where too much strictness drives out members, using sects, the most rigid of religious groups as an example; “nearly a third of all sects (32 percent) reached their high-water mark on the day they began. Twenty-one percent of these sects began to decline in membership from their very first day. Another 11 percent have not grown since formation.”
      So to summarize, what can be expected if the BSA changes its membership policy? The anti-discrimination activists have publicly stated that their goals are to open the BSA to gays, girls and atheists. If ultimately the BSA becomes an organization that does not discriminate on issues of sexual orientation, gender and religious affiliation or lack thereof, it will become just another extracurricular activity competing more directly with the multitude of sports, music, art, and other activities competing for time and claiming to build leadership skills, self-confidence and problem-solving. In such a case I believe it is reasonable to predict that many faith-based groups will withdraw and create one or many traditional scouting organizations along the lines of the Royal Rangers (Assemblies of God) or the American Heritage Girls.

  3. Howard McCuistion says:

    I am an Eagle Scout, OA Vigil member currently a COR for all families in BSA and I am against the policy change that you the Leaders of this great organization are contemplating. I can not believe you would jerperdize the integrity of what Lord Baden Powell work so hard to create. I am certain this is not in the best interest for the BSA even at the penalty of losing funds from those trying to force this move. If you hold strong to our values I am certain God will provide you other support from those who share our 103 year values.

  4. Scout says:

    Don’t loose yourself in the rubbish of gay rights..This organization is the only moral fabric that this country can depend on. God didn’t make adam and steve, God made Adam and Eve…(for that idiot pastor I saw in the news)

  5. Kim Pucka says:

    I don’t believe sexual orientation is anyone’s business at any age. i think the whole argument should be dropped.

  6. Karen Howell says:

    I would like to know if the Executive Board are elected, and if so, who elects them. Choosing to add homosexuality to Scouting will destroy the institution. We hope they make a decision soon because we will not continue to support Scouting with our time and resources if it becomes a homosexual indoctrination tool.

  7. Trina Stapleton says:

    Traditional values are the foundation of the Boy Scout program. If you destroy the foundation, the program will crumble and fall.

    • Susan Cheever says:

      I agree so strongly. Moral purity is intrinsically right and we cannot teach the boys to be morally straight if we are ambivalent about what that means. It is for the boys that we must stand true to right principles and not contribute to the lies that confuse so many people.

  8. Carol Blake says:

    I agree with the statement or our BSA organization being a moral orgainzation. If we do let the gays in this will defeat the who purpose of that saying. Also it will defeat the purpose of having the Youth Protection Training because there will be boys fearing for their safety around other scouts wondering if they are straight or gay as well as our adults; and this is where; if this goes through, we will loose millions of boys and adult leaders and deprive our upcoming young scouts from ever advancing and receiving their Eagle because the parent won’t let them go to scouts, campouts, or other required activites to earn these merit badges.
    I emlore you to PLEASE NOT LET THE GAY PEOPLE HAVE THEIR WAY WITH THIS. Let us keep this organization the way it was started and ment to be run. Thank You.

  9. Kathy Tirrell says:

    The Boy Scouts of America is a volunteer organization. No one is forced to join the Scouting organization. The beliefs of Scouting is not hidden from view. Everyone can read the Scouting principles and choose to either join or not. The registered adults and youth joined Scouting because of their principles. By changing these prinicples, the National Council of Boy Scouts would fail in standing behind their promises.

  10. Jerrye Baker says:

    Around my house, Scouting is in the top three with family and God. We love and respect the organization because of the strong moral and ethical values that Scouts stand for and that are passed on to generation after generation of young men. Removing the high moral standards now in place will allow Scouting to be just another look-alike youth organization. Our Oath “to do my duty to God” and “to keep myself mentally awake and morally straight” will become empty words with little to no truth in them. We faught all the way to the Supreme Court to be able to keep our high moral values intact – why would we even consider lowering those standards to appease people in the world who want to live by a lesser code of conduct; or who would hold our organization hostage by withholding funding because we are not willing to bend to their way of thinking. Take a page from the book of Mr. Truett Cathy, owner of Chick-fil-A, who stood up for Christian principles – his coffers are fuller now than ever before. The Boy Scouts of America needs to stand fast on higher principles and then we too can say, “Look what the Lord has done.”

  11. Sarah says:

    What if no one ever told they were gay, you may have member’s right now that are and you do not know it. Had the boy in California not openly admitted to it he would have gotten his Eagle and gone on with his life, and no one could have done anything to stop it. Probably a wake up call for future Eagle DON’T TELL. Come on it is 21st century and most predators are not homo sexual

    • Tery Hoopes says:

      I’m not certain that the scout being gay was a deciding factor in him not getting his Eagle. Outward actions in any orientation have more to do with it. A young man who is sexually active with his girlfriend would be just as likely to be denied an Eagle. Morally straight is more about moral cleanliness than by orientation. BSA isn’t about sex but about preparing young people to make moral and ethical decisions with the proper set of values. Let us all remember what BSA is really about. Appeasing adults and the liberal media is NOT it.

  12. Joe says:

    This is a no win situation. To be on the board is a task no one should relish. What we believe as individuals should be set aside. All of my life, I have been a a Scout. In good times and bad. It has always been a cornerstone for me and my son’s. We all have gotten so much from the program. The mere fact is what does BSA believe and stand for? I think the BSA’s policies are good and should not be changed. The purposed change would divide and eventually conquer the organization. Keep the BSA safe as possible and secure for the future generations. If individuals or groups do not agree with BSA policy, then they need to move on and find their place to feel comfortable and not act like this is about kids. It is about their own agenda.

  13. KevinDHarner says:

    We are a very diverse organization, accepting all religions/faiths and all ethnicities so why shouldn’t we also also include the gay and lesbian communities?

  14. Venturer says:

    Just because it is the 21st century does not mean one can further degrade the BSA values. The change in time period does not mean the rules of the past are nullified. Even if one did not say they were gay, that does not mean their views would not come out in everything they do. Scout Masters and Leaders are the role models and the influence for a scout or Venturer. Inspiring them to live morally straight lives. If the leaders are off morally they will impart their views and values on the participents of the BSA program. So with what started out as one person with a skewed view will turn into a whole troop or crew. l.kPeople will join with the troop or crew that has the same views and values as them. Therefore dividing the Boy Scouts of America against itself. “A house divided against itself will not stand”( Matthew 12:25)

  15. Arthur G. Lipman says:

    As a 60 year scout and scouter, former Cubmaster, Scoutmaster, Council officer, Area, Regional and National Committee Member, and current Area Vice President for Membership Impact in one of the most culturally and religiously conservative parts of the United States, I urge the National Executive Board to bring to us voting members of the national Council in May a resolution that would allow and charge each Charter Organization to define its own membership guidelines. While I respect the prerogative of some charter organizations to limit membership in their units based on their honestly-held definitions of morality, I believe it is essential for every council to include units in which all youth and their families are comfortable. Our failing to do obviates the BSA Vision Statement to… prepare every eligible youth in America to become a responsible, participating citizen and leader who is guided by the Scout Oath and Law.

    The sociological and psychological evidence is clear; admitting homosexual members and leaders presents no increased risk to our youth within our Youth Protection Guidelines.

    As I wrote in an editorial in the January-February issue of the Western Region Membership Impact Newsletter that I edit at the request of the Western Region President and Membership Impact Chair:
    Diversity is an outstanding hallmark of the United States. So is our right to associate with persons who hold beliefs and subscribe to values similar to our own. A brilliantly conceived aspect of the BSA is the Charter Organization (CO) concept through which the COs – not the councils “own” the units. This concept permits a broad range of ways in which the timeless scouting values are taught; in many languages, idioms, manners, and venues. It allows families to participate in scouting in ways most comfortable for them. For many, this is through units hosted by their faith groups. Some of those units include youth from many backgrounds and do not espouse a faith position, others primarily include youth form the faith group and represent that faith’s position on a range of issues including sexual orientation. Scouting also is hosted by range of secular community organizations that represent scouting values but not necessarily those of any specific faith group. Scouting programs and activities are delivered in English, Spanish, Chinese, Vietnamese, and many other languages. When a council includes an appropriate range of units, diversity allows nearly all youth to find comfortable scouting homes.

    The BSA is a “bottom-up, not a top-down” organization. The regions exist to support the councils and the councils to support the units, not vice versa. It is therefore appropriate for each CO to determine the most appropriate individual to lead the organization’s units. If the CO considers sexual orientation a criterion for selection of members and leaders due to its definition of morality and correctness, that can be the organization’s option. But neither national nor the council should dictate the criteria.

    COs can and do select scout leaders who reflect the organization’s values and priorities. Those adults then deliver scouting to youth ways that reflect the CO’s values. For some CO faith groups, exclusion of persons with sexual orientation not condoned by the organization is understandable. However, some other organizations and faiths have abandoned scouting because they do not support the current BSA position. The 2012 CO survey upon which the National Executive Board based its re-endorsement of the exclusionary policy was based on input from then-current COs. Organizations not then affiliated with scouting (some due the sexual orientation exclusion) lacked input. I believe that many of those would become COs without the sexual orientation exclusion

    Due to the current BSA policy, many youth are denied the benefits of scouting. All faiths that disagree with that policy have not withdrawn from scouting. For example, the United Methodist Church (UMC), one of the BSA’s largest COs, disagrees with the exclusionary policy but has not abandoned scouting. However, many UMC parishes now decline to host units and do not actively encourage their youth to participate. Many Unitarian–Universalist and Reform Jewish congregations among others closed units they previously hosted and now discourage their members from supporting and participating in scouting due to what they see as sexual discrimination.

    We need many more units that welcome members from more diverse backgrounds. Removing the current sexual orientation exclusion will produce more units, more scouts, and far greater community support for scouting. While some current COs disagree with this change, the net gain for scouting and American society will be great. The national membership policy pertaining to sexual orientation currently under discussion will not tell COs what to believe. It would allow each CO to define its own membership policy and select scout leaders that the organization deems appropriate.”

    Neither an exclusionary nor a mandated inclusionary policy on sexual orientation as a membership criterion would allow Charter Organizations thier units’ define membership within their organizational values. While many will demand full exclusion and other full inclusion of persons based on sexual orientation, both of those positions abrogate the Charter Organization concept upon which we are based.

    A policy of each Charter Organization defining membership standards pertaining to sexual orientation is the only reasonable decision and I urge the National Executive Board to support that position firmly.

    Respectfully submitted,

    Arthur G. Lipman
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    • JD says:

      Putting the decision on the chartered organization is a cop-out. A way for the BSA to have it’s cake and eat it both. Stand strong as an organization on tried and true moral principles and support the chartered organizations, or be divided and the organization will never be the same–and will not be serving very many youth. If gays want an organization like the BSA, there is nothing stopping them from trying it. However, I don’t believe they will succeed, because what has kept the BSA strong is the moral principles the BSA has stood on for so many years.

  16. Phil says:

    Keep the same policy- I have 2 Eagle Scouts and one that just got his Tenderfoot Rank. If the gays want an organization like scouting they can start there own and learn from the great Scouting organization. I hope the Leaders of Scouting Stay Strong. If we are going to hit hard times I hope it’s because we are loyal to the Scouting beliefs not because we compromised Scouting values. I will not have my son in with kids
    /parents who are gay at campouts, summer camps or high adventure camps- this just makes me sick.

  17. David says:

    In response to Dr. Lipham’s comments, I do not believe that the United Methodist Church has stated disagreement with the policy of the Boy Scouts of America. The General Commission of United Methodist Men stood with the Boy Scouts in their Supreme Court case. The Head of the GCUMM released a statement saying that they favored the option to allow local charter organizations to decide who their leaders would be versus a top to bottom reversal of the policy. I the Dale case, There was another seperate group within the UMC, that dealt with Church and Society, that oppossed the BSA in their Supreme Court case.

    From my reading of the The Book of Discipline which states the policies of the United Methodist Church, it indicates that homosexuality is incompatible with Biblical teaching and it in no way condones its practice, but also does not promote Church’s excluding person’s who are homosexual from seeking to worship or particpate in receiving communion or membership. The Book of Disclipline say explicitly that the Church will not allow clergy to perform or host a marriage homosexual marriage ceremony, nor will they ordain persons who are avowed homosexuals.

    It is troublesome for me to see a statement that Unite Methodist Church as a whole disagrees with these policy. I believe that the opinions within the United Methodist Church would be varied on this issue, however I do feel that most of the Churches in the deep south would tend to take the conservative perspective on this issue.

    Personally, I believe that a change in the membership policy would have dire consequences with regard to membership in my community, as well as community support. I am praying that the BSA stands firm and does not change its policy, as I believe that the principals that made this organization strong will stand the test of time. Our values should not be for sale or subject to the direction of the wind. I believe that a change in the membership policy would have dire consequences with regard to membership in my community, as well as community support.
    David Lewis
    Prattville, Alabama

  18. KevinDHarner says:

    People please the ones ultimately lost and hurt here are the youth. Try to look at it from that angle

  19. Ma says:

    At our Wolf den meeting yesterday, I had 3 moms say they would pull their boys out of Scouting should the volte go with homosexuals. These 3 moms are the wives and sisters of Eagle Scouts and have been actively involved in Scouting for a long time. There are other organizations who have youth groups based on the Scouting organization; let the gays start their own groups even if they use the structure that Scouts have used all these years. I don’t want them to meet/camp/influence my great-grandchildren (one of whom is in my Wolf den.)

    I believe that our CO will never allow gays.

    • Kevin D Harner says:

      They dont “recruit” where did you get that idea? The media-news/movies/tv have tainted our idea of what a gay or lesbian person is. I would be very happy and interested to know what it is like to grow up in a house with 2 careing and loving dads/moms

  20. Bobby Sammons says:

    There is so much said by the adults, both for and against, but when you ask the boys most say that it is a non issue. That being Gay is not contagious and that Gays do not “chase” the straight boys around for sex. And having two Gay boys share a tent is not an automatic setup for sex, just the same as a boy and girl sharing a tent is not an setup for sex. Yes there are Gay boys that will have sex with anyone that lets them, but there are also straight boys who will have sex with anyone that will let them. I have worked besides Gay men for many years and for the most part they were no different from the straight guys I worked with, other than I didn’t have to worry about them wanting to go out with the same women I wanted to. Either way the decision will be a difficult one.

    • Kevin D Harner says:

      I put it to my 11yr old son; a Webelos/Arrow of Light Scout. His response was “so what I dont care as long as they still teach me scout stuff”

  21. For those quoting the Bible, this video puts the citations in proper historical context. Leviticus is especially disturbing. Are you really ok with a Father who offers his daughters to invading soldiers to “do what you like with them?”

  22. Phillip Hausmann says:

    Appeasement only encourages aggression.

    You let the charter organizations pick today, it will be sensitivity training tomorrow, followed by the promotion of diversity and acceptance which includes sexual orientation.

    My God, my conscience, and my worldview will not be dictated by popular culture or polling. It would be good for the BSA to stand with that principle.

    It would appear now, as it has been, that the outside influences are now gunning for our children.

    • Bill says:

      Sounds like we could all use a little training on sensitivity, diversity, tolerance and acceptance. I’m sorry guys, but this is coming, and you need to wrap your heads around it. Homosexuals are people just like you and me. I’m sorry you’re so afraid of what you don’t understand.

    • KevinDHarner says:

      They are not gunning for children. Where do you get this from

  23. Mark Benson says:

    Keep the standards.
    If others would like to form an organization that is similar to scouts but allows gay leaders, let them form their own.

  24. Joe says:

    I believe BSA has offered a full Scouting program to the National Gay and Lesbian Organization for many years as long as they don’t call it Scouting. They’ve turned it down. So what is the real issue? It’s not for the benefit to the youth… So again what’s the point in changing when a program was freely given and turned down.

    Who is to benefit?

  25. Brandi says:

    Remember when girls wanted to join boy scouts and were not allowed so an Organization called Girl scouts was formed??

    Allowing homosexuals to change BSA beliefs & policy is NOT morally straight.

    So if policy is changed to allow homosexuals then I’m sure you can expect a petition from girls demanding that policy is changed to allow girls to join cubscouts.

    We love scouting and by allowing girls to join would allow my whole family to enjoy scouting together instead of separate, girl scouts on Tuesday night and cubscouts on Thursday night.

    See??? It’s a very slippery slope.
    Please stand strong and morally straight!!

    • Bill says:

      I actually wouldn’t have a problem with that. We had several sets of boy/girl twins in our Pack, and the girls did all the activities right along with the boys. Everyone got along fine. The girls just didn’t get to wear the uniform.

      Believe it or not, I think Troops would be just fine too. The biggest concern between boys and girls arises once they hit puberty, and we already allow girls at that age.

  26. Steve Tennant says:

    Come on out to the Bay Area! We look forward to hearing how you will listen to your stakeholders and what the process will be for developing solutions and making a timely decision. Now is the time for the BSA to model leadership.

    This policy does not work for my community, my troop, my family, our sponsoring church, or me. I look forward to working with those who are interested to create change.

  27. Larry says:

    Dear National Board,

    Please correct me, but the BSA had a committee that was appointed to collect info, stats etc on this issue between 2010 – 2012 and after collecting the results they published them and reaffirmed their position several months ago.
    The results was that 65% or more of the stakeholders believe the BSA should stand with its current policy.

    It appears that the current Chief Scout Executive and National President do not have the courage to stand up to the minority groups external and internal and tell them the policy stands.

    Both without or within the BSA the majority vote is what matters and no minority should be able to dictate or impose there beliefs on the majority.

    Minority groups be they gender, ethic, race, etc… do not stop when they get their way…. they go after the next in line of who disagrees with them.

    So, you will find that once the BSA gives in then they will go after the charter partners and anyone else who chooses to stand up for what is right.

    This has nothing to do with equal rights this has to do with people who can not stand that the majority of people disagree with them.

    What is even more disturbing is that our Nation as a whole is allowing this to happen. BSA changes its policy it just matter of time until GOD is taken out of the Scout Promise and Reverent and Clean are removed from the Law….

    You can look throughout history and see that when a community, country, civilization allowed a minority group to make changes for the majority it turns into:

    Anarchy, dictatorships, socialism, ethnic cleansing, extremists groups, and war…..

    The majority then has to fight for there freedom, rights, families etc….

    The BSA stakeholders need to rise up and be heard louder then the those who would impose their will upon us…..

    Stand firm, be true…

    • Bill says:

      I have absolutely no faith in the study done between 2010-2012, until the board publishes the actual document, including the raw data about who was polled, who was on the committee, and what precautions were taken to remain objective. Without that information, I have to conclude that the study was a sham, with the result determined in advance. Without transparency, that study is meaningless.

  28. Joe says:

    The BSA is a highly valued organization. If this was not the case, then why would so many want to be a part of it. The reason it is so highly valued is because it promotes high ideals, two of which is morally straight and duty to God. Allowing homosexuality in Scouting is the same as saying it is alright. If you allow this, then you have to lower your values which you have taught for over a hundred years. You then have lowered the value of the organization and at that point, why be a part of it. The Eagle rank will have little value to people and this is exactly what those that ask you to lower yourself to their level are trying to do. They have no morals and they want you to be the same way. You will certainly have to take morally straight out of the Scout Oath and you definitely can not have duty to God listed anywhere, there goes Reverent in the Scout Law. At this point, you are no longer a Boy Scout organization, you are now part of the rest of the country that is politically correct at the cost of your morals and values. These morals and values are the very reasons we need the Boy Scouts and the reason they are so highly revered. Do not succumb to peer pressure or allow these high ideals to be sold for money. We are better than that. If we weren’t then why are we in such demand. Stand up for what you know is right, that is what we teach. Don’t allow our morals to be degraded just so we can be politically correct. What is that worth. Do you know what the highest rank you can achieve in Girl Scouts, or 4-H, or YMCA, or Boys and Girls Club is? Most do not and they don’t because the value is not equivalent to the Eagle rank. People know what kind of person you are, the moral standards you live by, when you are an Eagle Scout. That is the type of person people want working for them and working around them. If it comes down to it, shut the doors and close up with dignity knowing you did the right thing and did not sell out for money and peer pressure for those with negative agendas. We are a private organization and anyone can start one that would like to do so. If you don’t like what we stand for, join something else that suits your needs. This is why those that are members of the Scouting organization chose to be and why they expect you to do your part to keep it morally straight, just as God intended.

  29. Scott Joyner says:

    BSA needs to hold to the foundations that made this such a great organization. This is strictly a moral issue. The definition of moral is: of or relating to principles of right and wrong in behavior. Since BSA was founded and the Scout Oath encourages “Morally Straight”, we have to understand that Baden Powell and William Boyce understood the differences in right and wrong behavior. Both being Christians, they knew what God’s word said was right and wrong and based Boy Scouts on this so BSA definitely has ties to God and Morals. To do away with these would be undermining the work of the founders.

    In his final letter to the Scouts, Baden-Powell wrote:

    …I have had a most happy life and I want each one of you to have a happy life too. I believe that God put us in this jolly world to be happy and enjoy life. Happiness does not come from being rich, nor merely being successful in your career, nor by self-indulgence. One step towards happiness is to make yourself healthy and strong while you are a boy, so that you can be useful and so you can enjoy life when you are a man. Nature study will show you how full of beautiful and wonderful things God has made the world for you to enjoy. Be contented with what you have got and make the best of it. Look on the bright side of things instead of the gloomy one. But the real way to get happiness is by giving out happiness to other people. Try and leave this world a little better than you found it and when your turn comes to die, you can die happy in feeling that at any rate you have not wasted your time but have done your best. ‘Be Prepared’ in this way, to live happy and to die happy — stick to your Scout Promise always — even after you have ceased to be a boy — and God help you to do it.[35]

    This is what Boy Scouts is all about. I encourage all to stand up and fight for what is right; not only for Boy Scouts; not only for America; but for God!!! Stand Strong BSA.

  30. Concerned Employee says:

    I am disappointed that the BSA is even entertaining the thought of changing a 103 year old policy. We have stood strong and I don’t see any reason to make any changes. I have heard input from both sides and I still hold to my belief that we should up hold our duty to God and our oath which states keep ourselves “morally straight”. The gay agenda will never stop pushing that is evident as you look at all the changes that have been made to please them. If we bend on this they will just attack the cahrter org and then they will want us to change our Scout Oath so that it pleases them. It is not healthy lifestyle for anyone involved. We have a responsibility to the boys, it goes much farther than the thought of having gays in scouting. Just one thought is how confused will boys be if they become friends with a child who has gay parents but his parents are morally straight. As a parent of an Eagle Scout I would not have allowed my son to go to a friends house where would have been any gay situations, I can only imagine the questions that would arise of why little Bobbi has 2 dads or 2 moms and he doesn’t,or what he could see while at the gay child’s house. Allowing this will ruin friendships and this would be difficult to explain to the younger boys who are not able to understand the repercussions of choosing a lifestyle that is IMMORAL!! We have to think about the boys and forget the money issue if corporations don’t want to support the BSA because they are standing for what is right then shame on them but there are many other corporations that would support the BSA, we need to find them and rally with them for support. I pray that our voting members will pray earnstly and seek wisdom and guidance as the May meeting approaches.

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